A summary of Chapter Nine has been given as follows by Çréla Bhaktivinoda Öhäkura in his Amåta-praväha-bhäñya. In the Ninth Chapter the author of Çré Caitanya-caritämåta has devised a figurative example by describing the "plant of bhakti." He considers Lord Caitanya Mahäprabhu, who is known as Viçvambhara, to be the gardener of this plant because He is the main personality who has taken charge of it. As the supreme enjoyer, He enjoyed the flowers Himself and distributed them as well. The seed of the plant was first sown in Navadvépa, the birthsite of Lord Caitanya Mahäprabhu, and then the plant was brought to Puruñottama-kñetra (Jagannätha Puré) and then to Våndävana. The seed fructified first in Çréla Mädhavendra Puré and then his disciple Çré Éçvara Puré. It is figuratively described that both the tree itself and the trunk of the tree are Çré Caitanya Mahäprabhu. The devotees, headed by Paramänanda Puré and eight other great sannyäsés, are like the spreading roots of the tree. From the main trunk there extend two special branches, Advaita Prabhu and Çré Nityänanda Prabhu, and from those branches grow other branches and twigs. The tree surrounds the entire world, and the flowers of the tree are to be distributed to everyone. In this way the tree of Lord Caitanya Mahäprabhu intoxicates the entire world. It should be noted that this is a figurative example meant to explain the mission of Lord Caitanya Mahäprabhu.
tam—unto Him; çrémat—with all opulence; kåñëa-caitanya-devam—unto Lord Kåñëa Caitanyadeva; vande—I offer obeisances; jagat-gurum—spiritual master of the world; yasya—whose; anukampayä—by the mercy of; çvä api—even a dog; mahä-abdhém—great ocean; santaret—can swim; sukham—without difficulty.
Let me offer my respectful obeisances unto the spiritual master of the entire world, Lord Çré Kåñëa Caitanya Mahäprabhu, by whose mercy even a dog can swim across a great ocean.
Sometimes it is to be seen that a dog can swim in the water for a few yards and then come back to the shore. Here, however, it is stated that if a dog is blessed by Çré Caitanya Mahäprabhu, he can swim across an ocean. Similarly, the author of Çré Caitanya-caritämåta, Kåñëadäsa Kaviräja Gosvämé, placing himself in a helpless condition, states that he has no personal power, but by the desire of Lord Caitanya, expressed through the Vaiñëavas and Madana-mohana vigraha, it is possible for him to cross a transcendental ocean to present Çré Caitanya-caritämåta.
I am claiming that Cambridge Law School is the source of deviations in Gaudiya Vaishnavism. In particularity this concerns Srila Prabhupada and ISKCON or the International Society for Krishna Consciousness. Since June 17, 1987 the United States has been attacked by placing a system of human rights abuses over my natural person and citizenship:
It is alleged that Cambridge Law School has organized a defection model through every police stationhouse worldwide. This enables a Censorship and Sanitization that is unprecedented in world history. LAPD is leading a Gay Militia fromCalifornia. The attack on the physical environment is severe.
Mobilization of Empire and Civilization or MOEC is the acronym for this leg of the expansion or more accurately the contraction of the British Empire. The United Kingdom has been responsible for the creation of Israel and Pakistan and Bangladesh.The Islamic State is struggling to refute claims that their rise is due in part to being proxies of the United States and United Kingdom in the Syrian Civil War.
Correlation does not prove an Origin. Hence the Authorship of a crime is the Proximate Cause
sine qua non. It is prima facie that there are five Irrationalist Presidents:
George HW Bush
George W Bush
A generation is 30 years. On June 17, 2017 this attack will have a Manifest Function of 30 years. There will be a sixth
de facto and corrupt President of the United States.
In brief, a rational devotee should consider the implications of Bhaktivinoda Thakura as a British judge, Srila Prabhupada's Journey to the United States, the Charting of ISKCON, Kirtanananda swami and the Sulochana Homicide, Child Molestation, The Poisoning Issue, and Book Changes.
MOEC Studies as Seva
Blythe CA Ehrenberg AZ
April 14, 2016
Nectar of Devotion
Chapter 51 Perverted Expression of Mellows
Rasabhasa, or incompatible mixtures of mellows, may be classified as uparasa (false expression) anurasa (imitation) and aparasa (perverted or misrepresented mellows). There is the following statement by an impersonalist who had just seen Krishna: "When a person has passed completely from all contamination of material existence, he relishes a transcendental bliss of being established in trance. But as soon as I saw You, the original Personality of Godhead, I experienced the same bliss." This perverted reflection of mellows is called santa uparasa, or a perverted reflection of mixed impersonalism and personalism.
There has been a manifest Chemical Assault Scorched Earth imposed over myself and the world since June 17, 1987. At this point in time there is also an Alignment or a convergence of systems under the development of Artificial Intelligence or A1. This is important in that a mechanistic world view is beginning to strengthen. Under Threat Analysis is obvious that the actors, allegedly Cambridge Law School whom designed the Chemical Assault Scorched Earth wish to be sanitized. What complicates this issueis that this system is LGBTi driven. It has blackmailed five Irrationalist Presidents Reagan Obama.
The current tensions in Gaudiya Vaishnavism reflect these issues from mundane political actors above.It is clear that the criminals know their own crime. The United States and United Kingdom will have to live up to their legal obligations as history unfolds. The intelligence explosion places individuals whom
had skill sets in the tool motor amplification category, hammer, saws, drivers, and machine operators are becoming obsolete. Those in the cognitive amplification sectors as computers share an overlap as data entry is also related to manual level technologies and is becoming obsolete.
The current inward looking nativism and populism as expounded by Donald Trump is scripted and is a territory of those persons whom stand to lose if Artificial Intelligence becomes dominant. In the concrete these persons would face strict competition from other college educated persons and sub AI technologies which are accelerating.
This attack is a reverse sting. It places the incompetent person over the competent person. This is a socially inverted game of Mousetrap that is planned obsolescence. The Vedas stress Guru Sadhu Shastra. To date no guru or sadhu has stepped forward. There are lives and property at stake. I am one day older then Barack Obama whom I consider a War Criminal whom has to sanitize his four predecessors. I totally believe that this attack is related to the Poison Issue of Srila Prabhupada. I have spent the last year un hacking my web domain. This is one of the sites that has mysteriously become un hacked.
October 16, Johannesburg 1975
Blythe CA Ehrenberg AZ
March 8, 2016
Politics in itself is subordinate to bhakti yoga. Hence mundane politics is born from the modes of nature. Hence it can be created and destroyed as the Virat Rupa. True Vedic governance is Krishna. This would be spiritual. Krishna is Absolute Goodness.
Prabhupada: Who is the top man? Everyone is top man. Instead of one king, now you have got one hundred kings. The minister, the secretaries, the under secretaries, the deputy minister, and so on, so on, so on. So there was only one unfortunate king. Now you have got three dozen kings, and you have to maintain them like kings. This is going on.
Prabhupada: No, the defective will be correct when you become Krishna conscious. Just like in your past life you had so many defects. Now it is corrected. That is practical.
Harikesa: Let's say somebody is a minister...
Harikesa: ...but his occupation is cheating.
Prabhupäda: That's all right. Let him become Krishna conscious. He will stop this cheating business.
Harikesa: But he has to stop.
Pusta Krishna: Yes. Rajarsi.
Prabhupäda: Yes. He has to stop. It will be stopped as soon as he becomes a devotee.
Harikesa: So then gradually it will become the varnasrama, with the one central head.
Harikesa: So we don't try to make a revolutionary system.
Prabhupäda: This is revolution.
Harikesa: We try to just make them Krishna conscious, then it's automatic revolution.
Prabhupäda: Yes. Peaceful revolution. Other revolution will not stand. [break] (in car)...perfect philosophy.
Harikesa: Your method is also the perfect method, the books in the colleges and libraries, educated people and... Wonderful. Actually, you have set everything up to do this.
Prabhupäda: Yes. Everything is spoken by Krishna. I am simply putting them for modern man's understanding. That's all.
Prabhupäda: Because they cannot understand, they think, "Dogmatic." It is not dogmatic. Most scientific.
Pusta Krishna: But they're all dull brained. Satisfied with a few scraps, work like dogs. Would you like to walk here, Srila Prabhupada?
Prabhupada: From the childhood he's supplied so many books, and when he is young man, he is hippie. That's all. Instead of becoming brahmacari, devotee, he is drunkard, he's drug addicted. That's all. (end)
Confronting Chemical Assault Scorched Earth
April 14, 2016
The failure of any world leader including Vaishnavas to confront the
in continuo Chemical Assault Scorched Earth radiating from the United States is more than suspicious. It is clear that a hub and node system of informants radiates through every police stationhouse worldwide. This is true even in the
Islamic State. Many of their actions are predictable to the common folk while the politicians and leadership engage in theater. The Irrationalist Presidents Reagan Obama are War Criminals. Supporting these actors only confirms fatalism and dependency. At the end of the day the casualties and property damage will be tallied. The Wizard of Oz has won.
Sva dharma permits one to due the needful. It is not ultimately sanatana dharma our eternal occupation.
Bhagavad Gita 2.31 London September 1, 1973
So Kåñëa is advising Arjuna that "This fight is not ordinary fight. It is dharma-yuddha, and you should accept it, you should not hesitate. After all, the soul is never killed. It is the duty, it is the duty of different dharma." Sva-dharma, sva-dharma means so long one is in the bodily concept of life, this sva-dharma means this brähmaëa, kñatriya, vaiçya, çüdra. This is sva-dharma. And Arjuna belonged to the kñatriya; therefore his sva-dharma, his occupational
duty, is to fight. So, and real sva-dharma is spiritual sva-dharma.
The Undermining of Gaudiya Vaishnavism
June 3, 2016
Conversations With Hayagréva
Hayagréva: The second best form is an aristocracy, and when it deteriorates it becomes an oligarchy, rule of corrupt men. And he considered democracy
to be one of the worst forms of government... Prabhupäda: Yes, that is my, I have said...
Hayagréva: ...for when it deteriorates, it degenerates into mob rule.
The anomalies confronting all faith systems and in this particular instance in Gaudiya Vaishnavism are state directed. Most devotees are dependent and focus on misleadership by the Zonal Gurus and the GBC. These actors are not the Proximate Cause. The Origin is the root of the equation. This is most likely
Cambridge Law School actors embedded with the United Kingdom. There is much empirical evidence in support. Bhaktivinoda Thakura was a British magistrate. The British model for expanding control was providing courts and railways. This permitted the entrance of trade and the military.
It is clear that Srila Prabhupada's travel to the United States and the incorporation of ISKCON in 1965 is far from an accident. The world is 29 years into a censored Chemical Assault Scorched Earth. It is nearly two years into the establishment of the Islamic State as caliphate now also in decline. These actors fiercely deny that they are proxies of the Anglo American Paradigm. Correlation does not guarantee an Origin. This issue in the abuse in Gaudiya
Vaishnavism and Islam is the degree of penetration and defection the UK and the United States has in raising and destroying these movements.
If evidence and or damage becomes more rigorous all the Kings horses and all the King's men are not going to be able to put Humpty Dumpty together again. Christianity, Islam, and Vaishnavism and all faith systems have fallen and are Undermined. The emergence of secular humanism and liberalism have not created a better human race but are suspect as they are benefiting from the fall of the first order.
The United States 2016 Campaign is a battle of the lesser of two evils. Trump is running a Know Nothing campaign without any historical legal obligations. Hillary Clinton has blood on here hands as Obama's Secretary of State and First Lady to President Bill Clinton whom is one of the five Irrationalist Presidents Reagan Obama.
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Srila Prabhupada on Communism and Terrorism
Lake Shastina CA
July 16, 2016
Morning Walk: Perth May 8, 1975
Paramahaàsa: So because people are so much in darkness about religion, therefore they say...
Prabhupäda: Yes, everyone is in darkness. If you can make propaganda, the people will be misled. That is not very difficult. Just like from Russia, nobody is communist. But it is going on the Russia is communist country. I have studied thoroughly. Nobody is communist. Maybe a few only. But it is going on by propaganda that Russia is a communist country. The people in general, they are forced to accept it. That book was written by some man, terrorism. It is terrorism. That's it. By force. Nobody accepts this communist philosophy, I have studied. (everyone gets out of car) They were very, very unhappy. The young man cannot go out of the country. Just see. Restricted. How much uncomfortable he is feeling. Especially in European countries, the young men, they want
to go. But they will not allow. They will not allow anything to read except Lenin's literature. What is this? Simply suppressing. Everyone is unhappy. Which way? This way? This is their position. I have seen it directly. And as soon as one is suspected that he is doing otherwise, he will be sent to some unknown camp. Nobody knows where he has gone.
Paramahaàsa: Just like they had some people who came to Russia to start some Buddhist thing, and then they were sent away to some camp,
Prabhupäda: Never seen again.
Paramahaàsa: No one has seen them.
Prabhupäda: Just see. This is their... It is the most fallen country. No freedom. No freedom at all. Horrible country.
Gaëeça: Why don't the people revolt if they're so unhappy?
Prabhupäda: Yes, they are revolting, but they are now so much suppressed they cannot... Sometimes there is revolt. Sometimes there is upheaval.
Paramahaàsa: Not a big upheaval because they are terrorized. They are afraid that if they revolt, then they...
Prabhupäda: They will be killed.
Paramahaàsa: Yeah, the government will come out and just shoot them all.
Prabhupäda: Yes, all the Leninists and Stalinists, they kill. It is a country of terrorism. That's all. The government men, they are simply terrorists. That's all.
Paramahaàsa: Just like in Cambodia they just, the new Communist government, they executed tens and thousands of people just recently.
Prabhupäda: Just see.
Paramahaàsa: People who were working for the old government. They just killed them all. So this what the people are afraid of.
Prabhupäda: Yes. Terrorism. This Communism means terrorism. (aside:) Thank you.
Amogha: I have a garland, but it's not finished. Almost...
Prabhupäda: Communism means terrorism. That I have seen. I have studied personally. By threat, by pressure, that's all. Nobody is communist in Russia.
Jayadharma: Is the whole world going to become Communist, Prabhupäda? Or is the whole world going to become Kåñëa cons...
Prabhupäda: Nobody is Communist, but if the demons are powerful, they will declare.
Paramahaàsa: They will introduce it.
Prabhupäda: They will not introduce; they will declare like that, falsely. That's all.
Paramahaàsa: Even in some countries where Communism has a very light influence, like in Thailand there's a little bit of Communist influence, when they had a student revolt, the government came in with tanks and machine guns and immediately killed about three thousand students.
Prabhupäda: In Thailand?
Paramahaàsa: Yes. In Bangkok. That was about two years ago.
The Death of Aindra Prabhu
July 17, 2010
Aindra Prabhu, a senior Prabhupada disciple has just passed away in Vrndavana, India. He died from burns and suffocation caused when natural gas leaked from his room canister. It is surmised he may of lit a match or caused a spark in relationship to deity worship in his room.
Already there are suspicions about this event. In India it has been surmised that this tactic is used frequently in dowry murders.
I am too busy to enter this debate other than to say it appears awkward. Aindra Prabhu was a critique of policy at the Holy Dham.
So we are honoring his passing and seva. Overall this can be placed into a historical context to what is happening here now in California.
The Undermining of the Vedas
September 15, 2016
Interviewer: The first question is this: Is the influence of religion on the wane? And if so, does this factor account for the increase in corruption and the widespread deterioration of moral values?
Çréla Prabhupäda: Yes, religion is on the wane. This is predicted in the Çrémad-Bhägavatam (12.2.1):
tataç cänudinaà dharmaù
satyaà çaucaà kñamä dayä
kälena balinä räjan
naìkñyaty äyur balaà småtiù
"In the Kali-yuga [the present age of quarrel and hypocrisy] the following things will diminish: religion, truthfulness, cleanliness, mercy, duration of life, bodily strength, and memory. These are human assets, which make the human being distinct from the animal. But these things will decline. There will be no mercy, there will be no truthfulness, memory will be short, and the duration of life will be cut short. Similarly, religion will vanish. That means that gradually we will come to the platform of animals.
...In logic it is said that man is a rational animal. When the rationality is missing, then he is simply an animal, not a human being. In human society either you become Christian, Muhammadan, Hindu, or Buddhist; it doesn't matter. There must be some system of religion. Human society without religion is animal society. This is a plain fact. Why are people so unhappy now? Because there is no religion. They are neglecting religion.
Vedic preaching as itself is only concerned in the main with Radha Krishna, guru, sadhu, and shastra. Since June 17, 1987, the United States began an
in continuo Chemical Assault Scorched Earth which is imposed in it's entirety only over my person. This attack is heavily biased towards LGBTi interests. Prima facie much can be deduced or supported concerning stalking, marriage breaking, child abuse, and other forms of corruption in Gaudiya Vaishnavism.
It is evident that Democracy has collapsed under the United States. One can not alienate a person under a bogus concoction of Gay Irrationalism Gay Know Nothing with a Gay Militia. The Gay Irrationalism refers to the opposite of yielding to rational proof. The latter is essentially a nativistic and populist mishmash where the dumbest persons are placed in a tournament setting against the brightest. Hence brain versus brawn.
The key to the Know Nothing component is expressed in the robotic code that is circulating under an Attorney General Exemption for the president, "In the end what will happen." A War Crime Tribunal should be seated with criminal and civil charges pressed. If your are a devotee and born after 1955 you have a very high chance of being subpoenaed at trial. Organizations as ISKCON and ISKCON Bangalore are building mega temples which will one day approach
$100 million USD. What is the cost of one life a $1 million USD. This is a complex issue. The solution is to decapitate the operation.
We left Goloka Vrindavana a long time ago.
Science of Self Realization
Finding Spiritual Solutions to Material Problems.
Macro and Microsystems
This is an old sketch I had written but became hacked. I have attempted to touch it up without changing it's original character.(DWN August 17, 2016).
August 12, 2011
In the domain of human culture there exists the inner spiritual and psychical world and the external social world. Hence culture defines shared values and behaviors of humans and their subgroups, not the individual (Anderson 1999). This would also be true of substance based faith systems and a mechanized analytical perspective of collective psychology and behavior. This is an important issue as advances in mechanism have approached a quantum level in physics and an exponential level in computing towards what some are predicting as a coming Technological Singularity (Kurzweil 2001).
Society can refer to two categories: 1. Species:
homo sapiens 2. Group: aperspective of culture which binds individuals into a collective inclusive of manner, morals, tools, and techniques (Anderson 1999).
Humans are not a self generating phenomena. Either we emerged from lower level material carbon based elements or were created by a higher level order.
A system defines the highest level of order. It is not chaos although it may be a process in a flux. The substantive faith based approach would argue that we are controlled under a deity who lives in a higher dimensional space. Such a macrosystem would be highly ordered and eternally stable. Other teological and eschatological end states which control lower level systems and microsystems are possible.
Hence the Vedas are a system as is Mechanism. Christianity, Islam, and Buddhism are also systems. Socialism and Communism are also systems. In a concept of society and culture these systems have a common baseline in that they aspire to ordinate the individual in a collective culture.
In contrast crime can also be a system. War crimes and other criminal enterprises are also systemic. Hence defining these organized collective acts means that they have risen to the highest level of severity.
Here we are primarily, but not in it's entirety focused on stating events in the positive first then in the negative or other lesser degree second.
Systemic analysis concentrates on recognizing patterns, unity, and coherent wholeness. It seeks to establish relationships between the suprasystem and it's components, subcomponents, and elements in a manner that can be mastered (Anderson 1999).
Hence a holon may be seen to both part and a whole. This is equivalent to part and parcel. The Vedic concept of Acintya bhedabheda tattva, states all things are simultaneously one and different.
Prabhupada: One you are already. Because you are foolish, you cannot understand. That is abheda. I am not different. Just like my finger is not different from me. If the finger thinks, "I am different from the body," that is ignorance (Prabhupada1 1976).
Therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu's philosophy is
acintya bhedabheda tattva: everything is God, and everything is not God. Bheda-abheda. Bheda means not, different, and abheda means one. Acintya-bhedabheda-tattva. Acintya... For us, how we can adjust, at the same time one and different? Therefore it is acintya. Not cintya, cintanéya. In our present sense it is difficult to adjust things how we are one and different with the Supreme Absolute Truth. Acintya bhedabheda tattva (Prabhupada2 1976).
Systemic thinking intends to grasp in it's entirety the relationship of a holon or the part and the whole (Anderson 1999).
The concept of holon considers that the object being analyzed is an entity in itself but part of a whole which is the suprasystem. It simultaneously may be part of subsystem or components. Here the concept of autonomy, randomness, and determinism are in itself a focal system and are holons that can each receive primary attention (Koestler 1979).
The suprasystem is a macrosystem that controls lower level systems. Hence your nervous system is the suprasystem in a human and an operating system is the suprasystem in your personal computer. However if we analyze a file as the letter (a) it can not be seen in your browser if there are not other applications that work with the operating system. Hence the letter (a) is not autonomous but it's existence is determined by other systems.
Koestler approach states that no one system is determinant nor is behavior determined at one level whether part or whole (Koestler 1979).
Here we can see the concept of energy and flux near a baseline. Hence process and structure with emergence and complexity are seen.
Hard determinism reduces to physics and math.
The same patterns and archetypal elements that create the physical universe at the level of the Cosmos, universe, solar system, and planet to the atom must also have created the individual and social environment in mechanism.
There is no unified field theory at hand. However social systems and general systems are converging to provide common language and parsimony in a very gradual manner. This exist also in a trajectory under Singularity.
Polarities exist in a positive and negative pattern in dualism. This is a disjunctive that is either or positive. In a system based more on oneness or simultaneously one and different this polarity is recognized but perceived more as flux or energy transforming.
Energy transforming is a process. It becomes a structure when it is more stable. Systems organize their energy and then become hierarchical reach their apex then disintegrate (Anderson 1999).
A culture raises itself when it's energy is ordinated and becomes decadent when it is entropic and unfocused. This concept of structural process is now prominent.
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The Undermining of the
Big Pine CA
October 6, 2016
Krishna Book Chapter 47
Krishna Pleases the Devotees
Krishna with Kubjä
After satisfying Kubjä with sweet words, Kåñëa returned to His place along with Uddhava. There is a warning in the Çrémad-Bhägavatam that Kåñëa is not very easily worshiped because He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the chief among the Viñëu-tattvas. To worship Kåñëa or have association with Him is not a very easy job. Specifically, there is a warning for devotees who are attracted to Kåñëa through conjugal love; it is not good for them to desire to have sense gratification by direct association with Kåñëa. Actually, the activities of sense gratification are material. In the spiritual world there are symptoms like kissing and embracing, but there is no sense gratificatory process as it exists in the material world. This warning is specifically for those known as sahajiyä, who take it for granted that Kåñëa is an ordinary human being. They desire to enjoy sex life with Him in a perverted way. In a spiritual relationship, sense gratification is most insignificant. Anyone who desires a relationship of perverted sense gratification with Kåñëa must be considered to be less intelligent. His mentality requires to be reformed.
Since June 17, 1987 no main stream Gaudiya Vaishnava Math has recognized the de facto Chemical Assault Scorched Earth which is debilitating the human race, life forms, and the environment. I believe that my assessment that a Gay Militia developed by Cambridge Law School to be the most accurate attempt to expose this War Crime by any party. I say this because this activity is focalized over my natural person. There are many persons in the thousands that are fractals. This facilitated Targeted Chemical Assaults TCAs, Electronic Surveillance, and Stalking.
It is clearly evident that the Irrationalist Presidents Reagan Obama are War Criminals on the Run... In this manner I would argue that devotees should boycott the 2016 Presidential Election and vote only on referendums. The pattern is simply there is deliberate escalation from successive Presidents. Hence Barack Obama has created the most victims, life, limb, then property. In this manner he also has to protect and sanitize his predecessors. This is the scheme of a Perfect Dictatorship with a Master Passion.
Most statistics are parametric or that a number or score is assigned to each event. The other manner is non parametricas Chi Square where devotees and non devotees can be compared. This is serious just as King David and Nebuchadnezzar both took census of their people our culture is constantly being monitored by informants and technology.You Are Being Numbered! I have a huge stake here. I am one day older than Obama. I sent my certificate to Donald Trump on twitter
and in days he ended the Birther Conspiracy by blaming it on Clinton.
We are being governed by Plutocracy. Trump is estimated to have $4 billion USD and the Clintons $200 million USD and the Clinton Foundation has $2 billion USD.
Boycott the 2016 Presidential Election
Desert Shores CA
November 3, 2016
I recommend that all persons, particularly devotees Boycott the 2016 Presidential Election between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. The Salton Sea adjacent to where I am is Chemically Despoiled. The election which is Tuesday, November 3, 2016 will mark the third time a Presidential Election has occurred will this atrocity was
in continuo. Barack Obama won two presidencies under these conditions. The Chemical Assault is named Operation Radhanatha which is an obvious poison in the well tactic designed to draw attention to the Poisoning Issue of Srila Prabhupada and the murder of Sulochana in Los Angeles.
I believe the last five presidents are War Criminals. I am 55 years of age. The Salton Sea is the greatest piece of material evidence. Even if the Sea is drained and cemented over the damage is likely to be traceable for hundreds of years.
The illiterate question, "What will happen at the end?" The answer is a War Crimes Prosecutor will ring your doorbell and hand you a subpoena or a warrant. Barack Obama is only 55 years of age and is a Target for prosecution.
The Supreme Personality of Godhead and Supporting Documents
Desert Shores CA
November 17, 2016
The Supreme Personality of Godhead and Supporting Documents pages have been migrated. Without a doubt these are the most important pages in the site.
This material world is the perverted reflection of the spiritual world; it is just like the reflection of a tree on the bank of a reservoir of water: the topmost part of the tree is seen as the lowest part. Similarly, parakiya rasa, when pervertedly reflected in this material world, is abominable. When people, therefore, imitate the rasa dance of Krsna with the gopis, they simply enjoy the perverted, abominable reflection of the transcendental parakiya-rasa. There is no possibility of enjoying this transcendental parakiya rasa within the material world. It is stated in
Srimad-Bhagavatam that one should not imitate this parakiya-rasa even in dream or imagination. Those who do so drink the most deadly poison.
BHAKTIVEDANTA BOOK TRUST AGREEMENT
Desert Shores CA
December 9, 2016
BHAKTIVEDANTA BOOK TRUST AGREEMENT
BBT Agreement 72/05/29
I, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami, disciple of OM VISNUPAD PARAMHANSA 108 SRI SRIMAD BHAKTISIDDHANTA SARASVATI GOSVAMI MAHARAJ PRABHUPÄDA, hereby give and transfer all of my books and all property rights incidental thereto as hereinafter described to A.C. BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI, BALI MARDAN dasa BRAHMACHARY, and KARANDHAR dasa ADHIKARY as Trustees, in Trust, for the purposes hereinafter stated and to be administered in accordance with the provisions hereinafter set forth.
The properties which shall constitute the Trust Fund include all books and manuscripts and other documents written by me or translated by me, including the following hereinafter listed, and all those written by me in the future, including all copyrights and publication rights incidental thereto:
The Nectar of Devotion;
KRSNA, The Supreme Personality of Godhead;
Teachings of Lord Caitanya;
The Bhagavad-Gétä As It Is;
Easy Journey to Other Planets;
KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS: The Topmost Yoga System;
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NAME OF TRUST
This trust shall be known by the name, "BHAKTIVEDANTA BOOK TRUST." Insofar as practicable, the Trustees shall conduct the trust activities in that name.
PURPOSE OF TRUST
This trust is created and shall be operated exclusively for the benefit of the INTERNATIONAL SOCIETY FOR KRISHNA CONSCIOUSNESS, incorporated by me, and qualified as a tax-exempt religious organization under the provisions of the Internal Revenue Code, and specifically for the Book Fund and Building Fund activities hereinafter set forth in particular. This trust shall exist independently of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness and the Trustees' functions and duties stated herein shall be separate and not dependent on the Governing Body Commission of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness.
I direct that no part of the Trust Fund shall inure to the benefit of any private individual and no part of the activities of this trust shall consist of carrying on propaganda or otherwise attempting to influence legislation, or participating in or intervening in any political campaign on behalf of any candidate for public office. I insert these mandates in order to comply with the provisions of the Internal Revenue Code applicable to tax exempt organizations. For the same purpose, I direct that the Trustees shall not conduct or carry on any activities which are not permitted to be conducted or carried on by tax exempt organizations under the provisions of the Internal Revenue Code.
USE OF THE TRUST FUND
The Trustees shall collect all proceeds from the sale of my books, that is One Hundred Percent (100%) of all the proceeds from all of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness Temples and divide these proceeds into two funds, one-half (1/2) for the fund known as the Book Fund, and one-half (1/2) for the fund known as the Building Fund.
The proceeds allocated to the Book Fund shall be used for the following purposes, all in the discretion of the Trustees, in whom I have complete confidence:
Printing and reprinting of books;
Directing and managing all publicity and
distribution of my books;
Processing all copyrights and legal rights
to my books;
Allocating funds as they see fit to ISKCON
Press and directing the operation of the
activities of ISKCON Press in the printing
and reprinting of said books.
Those funds allocated to the Building Fund shall be applied in the sole discretion of the Trustees in the following manner:
Purchase of properties for the construction
of new temples or renovation of old temples.
In the application of said proceeds, I direct the Trustees to distribute the trust income for each taxable year at such time and in such manner as not to become subject to the tax on undistributed income imposed by the Internal Revenue Code. In addition, in the discretion of the Trustees, I direct them to allocate such portions of the principal portion of the proceeds of said trust for the purposes stated in this Paragraph IV.
Any funds not so allocated may be distributed in the sole discretion of the Trustees to other charitable or religious organizations or purposes which qualify as tax-exempt under the provisions of the Internal Revenue Code.
MANAGEMENT OF TRUST FUND
I have full confidence in the manner in which my Trustees will govern the Trust Fund but, in order to give them as much flexibility as possible in accordance with the law, I set forth the following powers. In the administration of this trust and the Trust Fund, the Trustees shall have all powers and authorities necessary or available under the law to carry out the purposes of this trust, subject to the restriction as heretofore stated that they may not exercise any power or authority which is prohibited by the Internal Revenue Code for tax-exempt organizations.
Without limiting the generality of their powers, for purposes of clarification, I include the following special powers:
A. To invest any of the principal of the Trust Fund not used for the purposes hereinabove stated;
B. To open bank accounts in the name of the trust for the transaction of business;
C. To pay such administrative expense as may be necessary in the administration of this trust;
D. To appoint a secretary to keep account books and issue a monthly statement to the Trustees.
APPOINTMENT OF TRUSTEES
The Trustees whom I have herein designated are appointed for lifetime. In the event of the death or failure to act for any reason of any of said Trustees, a successor Trustee or Trustees may be appointed by the remaining Trustees, with never more than five (5) Trustees acting at one time.
TERM OF TRUST
This trust shall be irrevocable. In the event of an inadvertent disqualification of this trust under the laws as they may exist from time to time, which may require a dissolution of the trust, the entire Trust Fund shall, in that event, be distributed to the International Society for Krishna Consciousness.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have executed this trust this 29th day of May, 1972.
A.C. BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI
ACCEPTANCE OF TRUST
The Trustees hereby accept this Trust and the obligations imposed thereby and undertake to hold, manage and administer the Trust Fund in accordance with the terms of this Agreement.
A.C. BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI
BALI MARDAN dasa BRAHMACHARY
KARANDHAR dasa ADHIKARY
(Kelly G. Smith)
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Happy New Years!!!
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January 24, 2017
January 20, 2017 brought with it the Inauguration of Donald Trump as America's 45th President. Trump won the Electoral College but lost the popular vote to Hillary Clinton. Trump is claiming that several million illegal votes were cast.This is true to his nativistic economic nationalism platform on which he campaigned. Trump is highly anti abortion and has already ordered restrictions. The Vedas clearly teach that we are not the body but spirit souls. The polarization of corrupt governance has clearly overflowed into the daily lives of all Vedic practitioners. It remains to be seen if the economic liberalism of Ronald Reagan will be more successful then the Trump economic nationalism or protectionism.
AMENDMENTS FOR OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS
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AMENDMENTS FOR OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS
AMENDMENTS TO BE IMMEDIATELY ADDED TO ALL OFFICIAL REGISTRATION DOCUMENTS, CONSTITUTIONS, INCORPORATION PAPERS, ETC.
1.) It is declared that His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada is the Founder Acharya of (ISKCON) International Society for
Krishna Consciousness. He is the supreme authority in all matters of the society. His position cannot be occupied by anyone else, and his name and title must
appear on all documents, letterheads, publications, and buildings of the Society.
In particular it shall be clearly understood that no real estate may be purchased or sold by any officer of the Society without the express permission of
His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupad, the Founder Acharya of ISKCON.
2.) There shall be a Governing Board Committee of trustees appointed by the Founder Acharya His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupad
according to the document Direction of Management dated July 28, 1970. The GBC is to act as the instrument for the execution of the will of
His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupad.
Dated at New York, July 22, 1974.
Approved: A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami
Signed: Brahmananda Swami,
GBC , Zonal Secretary
Balimardan das Goswami
GBC, Zonal Secretary
Nectar of Instruction - Upadeçämåta
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March 26, 2017
Verse 1. A sober person who can tolerate the urge to speak, the mind's demands, the actions of anger and the urges of the tongue, belly and genitals is qualified to make disciples all over the world.
Verse 2. One's devotional service is spoiled when he becomes too entangled in the following six activities: (1) eating more than necessary or collecting more funds than required; (2) over endeavoring for mundane things that are very difficult to obtain; (3) talking unnecessarily about mundane subject matters; (4) Practicing the scriptural rules and regulations only for the sake of following them and not for the sake of spiritual advancement, or rejecting the rules and regulations of the scriptures and working independently or whimsically; (5) associating with worldly-minded persons who are not interested in Kåñëa consciousness; and (6) being greedy for mundane achievements.
Verse 3. There are six principles favorable to the execution of pure devotional service: (1) being enthusiastic, (2) endeavoring with confidence, (3) being patient, (4) acting according to regulative principles [such as çravaëaà kértanaà viñëoù smaraëam—hearing, chanting and remembering Kåñëa], (5) abandoning the association of nondevotees, and (6) following in the footsteps of the previous äcäryas. These six principles undoubtedly assure the complete success of pure devotional service.
Verse 4. Offering gifts in charity, accepting charitable gifts, revealing one's mind in confidence, inquiring confidentially, accepting prasäda and offering prasäda are the six symptoms of love shared by one devotee and another.
Verse 5. One should mentally honor the devotee who chants the holy name of Lord Kåñëa, one should offer humble obeisances to the devotee who has undergone spiritual initiation [dékñä] and is engaged in worshiping the Deity, and one should associate with and faithfully serve that pure devotee who is advanced in undeviated devotional service and whose heart is completely devoid of the propensity to criticize others.
Verse 6. Being situated in his original Kåñëa conscious position, a pure devotee does not identify with the body. Such a devotee should not be seen from a materialistic point of view. Indeed, one should overlook a devotee's having a body born in a low family, a body with a bad complexion, a deformed body, or a diseased or infirm body. According to ordinary vision, such imperfections may seem prominent in the body of a pure devotee, but despite such seeming defects, the body of a pure devotee cannot be polluted. It is exactly like the waters of the Ganges, which sometimes during the rainy season are full of bubbles, foam and mud. The Ganges waters do not become polluted. Those who are advanced in spiritual understanding will bathe in the Ganges without considering the condition of the water.
Verse 7. The holy name, character, pastimes and activities of Kåñëa are all transcendentally sweet like sugar candy. Although the tongue of one afflicted by the jaundice of avidyä [ignorance] cannot taste anything sweet, it is wonderful that simply by carefully chanting these sweet names every day, a natural relish awakens within his tongue, and his disease is gradually destroyed at the root.
Verse 8. The essence of all advice is that one should utilize one's full time twenty four hours a day in nicely chanting and remembering the Lord's divine name, transcendental form, qualities and eternal pastimes, thereby gradually engaging one's tongue and mind. In this way one should reside in Vraja [Goloka Våndävana dhäma] and serve Kåñëa under the guidance of devotees. One should follow in the footsteps of the Lord's beloved devotees, who are deeply attached to His devotional service.
Verse 9. The holy place known as Mathurä is spiritually superior to Vaikuëöha, the transcendental world, because the Lord appeared there. Superior to Mathurä—Puré is the transcendental forest of Våndävana because of Kåñëa's räsa-lélä pastimes. And superior to the forest of Våndävana is Govardhana Hill, for it was raised by the divine hand of Çré Kåñëa and was the site of His various loving pastimes. And, above all, the superexcellent Çré Rädhä-kuëòa stands supreme, for it is overflooded with the ambrosial nectarean prema of the Lord of Gokula, Çré Kåñëa. Where, then, is that intelligent Person who is unwilling to serve this divine Rädhä-kuëòa, which is situated at the foot of Govardhana Hill?
Verse 10. In the çästra it is said that of all types of fruitive workers, he who is advanced in knowledge of the higher values of life is favored by the Supreme Lord Hari. Out of many such people who are advanced in knowledge [jïänés], one who is practically liberated by virtue of his knowledge may take to devotional service. He is superior to the others. However, one who has actually attained prema, pure love of Kåñëa, is superior to him. The gopés are exalted above all the advanced devotees because they are always totally dependent upon Çré Kåñëa, the transcendental cowherd boy. Among the gopés, Çrématé Rädhäräëé is the most dear to Kåñëa. Her kuëòa [lake] is as profoundly dear to Lord Kåñëa as this most beloved of the gopés. Who, then, will not reside at Rädhä-kuëòa and, in a spiritual body surcharged with ecstatic devotional feelings [apräkåtabhäva], render loving service to the divine couple Çré Çré Rädhä-Govinda, who perform Their añöakäléya-lélä, Their eternal eightfold daily pastimes. Indeed, those who execute devotional service on the banks of Rädhä-kuëòa are the most fortunate people in the universe.
Verse 11. Of the many objects of favored delight and of all the lovable damsels of Vrajabhümi, Çrématé Rädhäräëé is certainly the most treasured object of Kåñëa's love. And, in every respect, Her divine kuëòa is described by great sages as similarly dear to Him. Undoubtedly Rädhä-kuëòa is very rarely attained even by the great devotees; therefore it is even more difficult for ordinary devotees to attain. If one simply bathes once within those holy waters, one's pure love of Kåñëa is fully aroused.
Çrémad Bhägavatam 1.16.12
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April 9, 2017
Los Angeles, January 9, 1974
Pradyumna: "Mahäräja Parékñit then conquered all parts of the earthly planet Bhadräçva, Ketumäla, Bhärata, the northern portion of Kuru-jäìgala, Kimpuruña, etc. and exacted tributes from their respective rulers." [SB 1.16.12]
Prabhupäda: So in this verse it is descriptive, different parts of the world. So the important word is here, vijitya jagåhe balim. Balim, I do not know how it is said, "strength." Tax, tributes. The king, the emperor, would conquer a country and levy tax. Must give at least token. Doesn't matter even one pound or one dollar per year, but he must pay something, token. That means he agrees to become subordinate. Just like according to rent act, a poor man must pay something. It may be... In our country it is so... So that the landlord has the claim. Without rent, after some years it becomes his property.
So this conquering of other countries was not like the Napoleon conqueror or Hitler conqueror. No. As it will be evident from the character of Mahäräja Parékñit, the idea was to keep the whole world Kåñëa conscious. If certain countries, certain portion of the world, would not be Kåñëa conscious, then this king would go and chastise them. Just like Kåñëa used to kill the demons. There was one Pauëòraka. Even during Kåñëa's time, he placed himself as Viñëu. He artificially made four hands. So he challenged Kåñëa that "I am Viñëu." So Kåñëa immediately cut his head. So any imposter, pretender, representing as the incarnation of God or something like that, in those days, the king would not tolerate; immediately would cut his head, what to speak of thieves and rogues. So king's going to other country, conquering, it did not mean that to acquire some possession, land possession. No, that was not the aim.
The aim was... All the fights in Mahäbhärata or in Rämäyaëa, it was meant for chastising the godless, godless. Just like Rämacandra. Rämacandra, Lord Rämacandra, chastised Rävaëa. So he went to Laìkä—they call Ceylon—and crossed the sea by making bridge. But what was the idea? The idea was that "This rascal demon is a godless person; so therefore he must be punished." He was punished not alone. Anyone who joined with him, everyone was punished. But Lord Rämacandra did not occupy the land for His kingdom. He installed his brother Vibhéñaëa, who was a devotee in the place of Rävaëa. Just like Kåñëa. Kåñëa was taking part in the Battlefield of Kurukñetra and inducing Arjuna that "You fight." Arjuna was not willing to fight, but He was inducing to fight. So what is the purpose? Because the other party represented thieves, rogues, and demons. So Kåñëa wants therefore that somebody must be king who is His representative, devotee. That is the whole plan.
yadä yadä hi dharmasya
glänir bhavati bhärata
tadätmänaà såjämy aham
vinäçäya ca duñkåtäm
This is the purpose, dharma-saàsthäpanärthäya, to establish religious principles. If people become irreligious, then the whole world becomes a hell. Just like at the present moment, anywhere you go, it is hellish condition. Nobody is peaceful, nobody is happy, although materially very much advanced. Political entanglement, social entanglement, religious entanglement, economic entanglement. Simply entanglement. No peaceful living, anywhere. Just like at the present moment, the whole world there is... What is that crisis? Power crisis? Energy crisis. So crisis must be there. Otherwise, if you live peacefully, even within so many crisis, war, and fighting, we are thinking this world is very nice. In spite of all these difficulties. Especially in the Western countries, every ten years there is a war. First World War, Second World War. Before that, Hundred Years War, Seven Years War, Trafalgar's war, Waterloo war. War, war, war. There cannot be any peaceful life, because everyone is rogue and rascal, so there must be war. There must be punishment by nature. As soon as there is overpopulation...
That is Malthus's theory also, that as soon as there is overpopulation, there must be something disturbance, war, pestilence, epidemic, and finished, finished. The extra population, unnecessary. Varëa-saìkara. They are called varëa-saìkara. Varëa-saìkara... Because by nature there must be brähmaëa, kñatriya, vaiçya, çüdra, by nature. That should be organized. Head is head, tail is tail, not that head, tail, everything is one. That is called varëa-saìkara. Kåñëa, Arjuna has argued that if the family members... If the woman becomes widow, then there will be varëa-saìkara population. Varëa-saìkara population means a population who cannot say who is his father. That is varëa-saìkara. Or which caste does he belong, what is his father, what is his family. No, nothing, no information. That is called varëa-saìkara. So when the varëa-saìkara population increases, then the whole world becomes hell.
So in order to save the world to become hellish, the king was so alert. That is also bhakti. Because the whole natural plan is to come back to home, back to Godhead. This is nature's plan. Daivé hy eñä guëamayé mama mäyä duratyayä [Bg. 7.14]. Just like the police department. What is the meaning of police department? Why government spends so much money for police department? Just to keep law and order. There must be. As soon as there is disobedience of law and order, immediately police department must go and punish and arrest. We can experience these things. Similarly, by God's side, there is such department, police department. That is mäyä, Durgädevé. Durgädevé, you have seen. Most of you might not have seen Durgädevé's picture, with trident, trident in the hand. The asura is being attacked by the trident. So this trident means threefold miseries. You have seen the picture, mother, goddess Durgä is piercing the trident just here on the heart. This trident means threefold miseries: adhyätmika, adhibhautika, adhidaivika. I have several times explained: pertaining to the body and mind, pertaining to the other living entities, adhibhautika, adhidaivika, pertaining to the nature's disturbance.
Adi Lila Chapter 3:
May 9, 2017
The business of accepting authority is discussed descending from the original Purusha, in short an acarya guru that is authorized is only recommended. Advaitya Acarya was such a person in a devotional state and it was his petition to Krishna that Caitanya advented.
For matters of simplicity, the materials discussed above are elaborated including a discussion of the Purusha and Bhakta or devotee. The shastra adds an authoritative description of the Panca Tattva or entourage of Caitanya that advented to deliver the world during the age of Kali. Adi Lila 7.
The Bhaktivedanta Purports state that in relation to the Panca Tattva there is an initiating spiritual master (diksa), and an instructing spiritual master (siksa). There are five other Tattvas in regards to these subjects 1. Isa Tattva Supreme Lord. 2. His expansion Tattva 3. His incarnation Tattva 4. His energy Tattva 5. His devotee Tattva.
In the performance of sankirtana yanja, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu (Great Devotee) is always accompanied by His plenary expansion, Sri Nityananda Prabhu, His internal potency Sri Garbhadana Prabhu and His marginal potency Srivara Prabhu.
Spiritually there is no difference between the Tattvas as they are varieties of an Absolute Spiritual Nature.
Nityananda Prabhu is the immediate expansion of Sri Caitanya as his brother Bhakta Rupa. Sri Nityananda Prabhu is Bhakta Svarupa (a form of devotee). Sri Advaitaya Prabhu is the incarnation of a devotee as Vishnu Tattva. The Bhaktas or the devotees are included together and these devotees represent Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Srimati Radharini is Krishna's eternal consort in Goloka Vrndavana. Sri Caitanya is Radha Krishna in one body. He enjoys their love affair in an uncontaminated manner. Sri Caitanya manifested for three reasons:
1. To relish the position of Srimati Radharini. The Lord is the subject and Radharini object.
2. To understand the mellow of himself.
3. To taste the bliss that is enjoyed by Radharini. Sri Krishna is the transcendental male. Srimati Radharini is the transcendental female.
The culmination of the Vedanta is the understanding of rasa lila. This is Sri Krishna's pastimes with the gopis in the pleasure groves of Vrndavana Vraja. Only the most advanced persons are able to perceive these lilas as they exist transcendentally.
Thus Sri Krishna is the Supreme Vishnu and Narayana.
Service: Hawaii, June 20, 1975
June 6, 2017
Hawaii, June 20, 1975
Prabhupäda: So why not serve the supreme strong (?)
Prabhupäda: That is natural. Nünaà mahatäà tatra. Mahat means bigger and more powerful, and nunam means there are less powerful. So everyone is less powerful than God. Then why don't you serve God? That is the perfection. You have to serve somebody strong. You cannot avoid it. Just study all status of society, animal society or human society. The law is that the stronger is dominating the weaker. That is the law. You cannot avoid it. So wherefrom this idea came unless it is in God? Janmädy asya yataù [SB 1.1.1]. All ideas come from the Supreme. That is the law, that the strong predominate over the weak. So who can be stronger than God? So this is our natural position, to serve God.
Siddha-svarüpa: Yes. And He is a nice master.
Prabhupäda: Yes. Perfect master. Even without becoming master He is providing everything. Even though those who do not accept Him, He is also giving them. So what to speak of those who have accepted Him? This is very simple philosophy. It is His position to accept service. Kåñëa says, sarva-dharmän parityajya mäm ekaà çaraëaà vraja [Bg. 18.66]. It is good for the person who surrenders. Kåñëa doesn't require your service. When He says, "You surrender to Me," it does not mean that Kåñëa is suffering for your service. Kåñëa is self-sufficient. He can create millions of servants like you. So He doesn't require your service. But if you serve, then it is your benefit. You become saved: "Now I am under the protection of a very able..." [break] ...and every respect, opulence of master. You are serving cats and dogs. Why not serve the most supreme, able and opulent master? This is going on. You have to serve. You cannot say, "No, no. I will not serve. I am independent." That is not possible. You have to serve. You have to serve, and you will be exploited, by the imperfect masters. So why not serve the perfect master so that you will not be exploited again? It is simple.
Siddha-svarüpa: [break] ...being servants, but we're...
Prabhupäda: You have to serve. If you do not serve, the strong will force you to serve.
Siddha-svarüpa: And it's the most horrible service, too.
Prabhupäda: Yes. Now this, as you say that the Hawaiians, they are meant for cleansing the hotel to get some money. And without money, he cannot live. So he forced to serve. What are the tanks? Petrol?
Siddha-svarüpa: I think so. Yeah. Shell Oil.
Prabhupäda: [break] Therefore the good intelligence is kämädénäà kati na katidhä pälitä durnideçän teñäà mayi na karuëä jätä na trapä nopaçäntiù: "I have served. I have served the so-called master. Actually I have served my senses." As they come to the hotel for sense gratification and do all nonsense and I have to serve him, so why I am serving? Oh, that is also for serving my senses. Without money I cannot serve my senses.
Siddha-svarüpa: Yes. So that's ultimately the problem.
Prabhupäda: (laughs) Ultimately the problem, that we have to serve, and ultimately we have to serve our senses. Senses means lusty desires, kämädénäm. Käma means lust.
Prabhupäda: Yes. Käma, krodha, lobha, moha, mätsarya. Käma means lusty. Krodha means anger. If my lusty desire is not fulfilled, then I become angry. Then I have to serve anger. Käma, krodha. Then I become more greedy. Käma krodha lobha. Then I become illusioned, moha. Then I become envious. In this way I have become implicated. So this service of this material world means I become more and more implicated. Therefore a devotee says, "My Lord, now I have got sense." What is that sense? "Now I am meant for service, I have rendered service, but nobody has become happy, either the master or myself. Therefore now I have got intelligence: why not serve You? You are the supreme master. So I have come to You. Please engage me in Your service." This is full surrender. Kämädénäà kati na katidhä pälitä durnideçäù. By serving this material objective, there is no peace. Everyone is unhappy although they are rendering service and taking service. This is going on, but nobody is happy because this is artificial. Real service... Unless the thing comes to the real point, there is no peace. Here everyone is trying to become master, and everyone wants to avoid service. But by the nature's law, one has to become servant and render service. Going on. Conglomeration. Kämädénäà kati na katidhä pälitä durnideçäs teñäà mayi na karuëä jätä na trapä nopaçäntiù. [break] (end)